Gacha Game Review: Persona 5: The Phantom X

Hi, Geekly Gang! Season here. I mentioned in a previous “Whatcha” that I’d started playing Persona 5: The Phantom X. I’ve gotten a good feel for the game and have decided to pit it against our Gacha game review system. Let’s see how Persona 5: The Phantom X scores.

Before we begin, it’s impossible not to compare Persona 5: The Phantom X with Persona 5 and Persona 5: Royal.

Mechanisms

Mechanisms: 6/10

Maybe I should have rated this lower since the mechanisms are similar to Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal. Since the mechanisms in Persona 5: The Phantom X stay true to the original Persona 5, they’re baseline good. Enemies maintain their weaknesses, and the game is more upfront about what enemies are weak to, instead of players having to guess. The main character (Wonder) can alternate between up to three different personas for different enemies. This cuts the score a bit since the main character from Persona 5 (Joker) can alternate between up to ten different personas.

The baton pass in Persona 5: The Phantom X is a step up from Persona 5. When prompted to perform a baton pass (baton touch in this case), any character who has an element that any of the enemies they’re facing is weak to will have “Weak!” pop up next to their picture. The downside is that players still have to remember which enemies are weak to which elements, because a character possessing an enemy weakness may target one that’s already been incapacitated.

Gameplay Loop

Gameplay Loop: 5/10

I’ll start with the positives. Players can go back to cleared Palaces. Unlike the original Persona 5, there’s no pressure to collect everything before the Palace collapses. Due to small map sections, the overworld is easy to navigate. Event-wise, story-related events (the Palaces from Persona 5) remain as permanent events. Smaller events with limited rewards get phased out after a certain period of time. This makes events easier to navigate for new players, and for players who’ve never played Persona 5.

Mementos differs slightly between Persona 5: The Phantom X and Persona 5 Royal (Persona 5 doesn’t include this). In Persona 5 Royal players collect stamps and flowers in Mementos to collect rewards. In Persona 5: The Phantom X, players collect train tickets to exchange for items and unlock different areas of Mementos.

I’m going to level with you, Geekly Gang. This is my biggest gripe with Persona 5: The Phantom X’s gameplay loop, and it’s not something I’ve ever complained about in a game this much. Persona 5: The Phantom X has fifteen different currencies. Fifteen. Why? I don’t even pay attention to most of them because many of them are zone-specific. The two important currencies are the Yen and Meta Jewels. Yen allows you to purchase anything in the overworld, and Meta Jewels lets you pull for characters and weapons. If you’re short on anything required for a specific task/character level, the game will prompt you to go collect it.

Respectful of a Player's Time

Respecting Time: 8/10

Persona 5: The Phantom X allows me to complete my dailies in under ten minutes. There’s no auto-clear for farming, but after a player completes a farming-related battle, they can spin a dodecahedron (a 12-sided die) up to six times and gain that much in resources. Seriously. I can complete my farming after two auto-battles.

Battle Pass: 4/10

The battle pass is nothing special. It’s similar to Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail, and Wuthering Waves, but with an extra ten levels tacked onto it. I’m not sure why, since these ten levels offer the same rewards with every level.

Video Game's True Cost

True Cost: 7/10

Unfortunately, Persona 5: The Phantom X falls into the same weapon banner pattern as Genshin Impact. Players select two five star weapons they want to include on the banner in addition to the featured one, and there’s a 1/3 chance they’ll get that weapon after eighty pulls. However, pulling (opening packs to gain new units or weapons) is cheaper in Persona 5: The Phantom X than the other gachas we’ve covered. Weapons cost one-hundred Meta Jewels per pull, and characters cost 150 per pull.

Story or Narrative

Narrative: 2/10

The only upside to Persona 5: The Phantom X’s narrative is it’s easy-to-follow—especially if you’ve played Persona 5. It doesn’t build on Persona 5 or Persona 5 Royal, but reskins it with characters and Palaces that mirror the original. The group of teenagers fights to get their desire back, which doesn’t make much sense for rag-tag teenagers. They haven’t survived high school and have minimal life experience. This would hit harder if the characters were much older, by, like, thirty years.

The “time” in the game doesn’t flow well, either. In Persona 5, there were days of the week, holidays, and deadlines. Players had to plan their time well to get the most out of their time. In Persona 5: The Phantom X, “time” is only relevant for overworld tasks and when confidants are available to hang out. Instead of using specific dates, day progression is denoted by today, tomorrow, and yesterday.

Storytelling

Storytelling: 3/10

Since the story flows in Persona 5: The Phantom X, it gets a slightly higher rating than the narrative. However, it still gets a lower score than other gachas because it’s mimicking Persona 5 in every way. Come on, guys.

Also, how long are Wonder’s parents going to be on vacation? They’ve been on vacation since the game began. I think they went out to buy milk and cigarettes.

Credit: GameRant

Presentation; User Interface: 5/10

The UI has a similar setup to Honkai: Star Rail, which isn’t too difficult to navigate. There are too many subcategories. Why are there two different categories for shopping? Combining them would eliminate one of the subcategories.

Credit: Game8

Presentation; Graphics and Audio: 4/10

The audio quality is fine. It’s average. The graphics, on the other hand, are slightly better than the original Persona 5, which is almost a decade old at the time of writing. There shouldn’t be minuscule graphics differences between two games that are ten years apart.

Aggregated Score: 4.89

I tried to raise the score for Persona 5: The Phantom X as much as I could, but this is the best score I could give it. There are definitely some sections that could’ve earned harsher scores. If you’re looking for Persona 5, Persona 5: The Phantom X has that to a degree. I recommend playing Persona 5 (or any other Persona game, for that matter) over Persona 5: The Phantom X. Since it’s around the holidays at the time of writing, Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal are likely on sale somewhere. If not, they’ll probably be on sale at the end of the year. Steam normally has a huge end-of-year sale. I’ve also seen PlayStation have sales on Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal in the past.

What do you think, Geekly Gang? Was our final score too low, too high, or just right? Let us know in the comments. Thank you for reading and have an amazing rest of your day.

Gacha Game Review: Genshin Impact

Hey, hey! Kyra Kyle here. I’m kicking off these gacha critiques with Genshin Impact. I have two logins (one for PC and the other Playstation), so I’ve spent plenty of time in Teyvat (the world Genshin is set in). But I’ve only recently revisited the game. The new continent Natlan brought me back. So, what does Genshin look like in over a year? The graphics are dated but not as bad as I would’ve thought. The oversaturated colors bugged me. They’re loud. So loud that I almost grabbed a pair of sunglasses to shield myself from the glare. The music was always great, almost iconic. But these are surface-level viewpoints. How does Genshin Impact hold up to some of these new or updated video game criteria that we talked about in yesterday’s post? As it turns out, not too well.

Mechanisms: 5/10

Genshin conducted a massive copy paste to Zelda: Breath of the Wild’s mechanisms, so you won’t find too many innovative game mechanisms. The mechanisms that are here work well, even if they are dated, but more on that in the following segment. Is there anything left to say than Genshin’s mechanisms whimper banal?

Above Image from GameDesigning.Org

Gameplay Loop: 8/10

It worked in Breath of the Wild, and it works here. The core gameplay loop can keep players engaged for countless hours. That can be a good and bad thing. Elemental reactions play a huge role in Genshin’s combat, so players will often switch characters. Breath of the Wild only has Link. The physical swapping of characters goes a long way to hold a player’s attention, and it doesn’t hurt that players need to build more than one character and that each of these characters have different interactions.

Respecting Time: 2/10

Genshin does little to respect a player’s time. It’s an older game, four-years old at this point, and it shows its age. As I mentioned previously, Genshin borrows most if not all of its gameplay from Zelda: Breath of the Wild and that includes the glacially slow glider and snailing up mountain faces. And there are so many mountain faces. But it goes deeper than that. Repetitive storylines and dialogue with no way of skipping said dialogue can make me want to rage quit. The game time gates upgrade materials. One can only farm materials on certain days of the week. I forgot about this in my year off. Why can I only farm skill scrolls on specific days? It makes no sense.

And speaking of these upgrade materials and skill scrolls, one can’t skip the domains these items can be found. You must defeat the same bosses or mid-level bosses every day. Every. Day. I miss older gachas. They knew they were mobile/timewaster games and allowed players to skip. I’ve beaten this level with a five-star rating before, so I can spend my energy and auto-clear this domain. The trend of disabling auto-clear in gachas began with Genshin. Hoyoverse assumed the attitude of “I created a robust world with better graphics and demand you see this world as much as possible, even if it’s repetitive.” Ugh!

It takes one-two minutes to defeat these domains. That’s not that long but considering you could clear about eight to twelve a day, that’s a good ten-twenty minutes. It’s half that if you use condensed resin (which acts like finishing the domain twice in one go), but you also need to farm the items with which to make condensed resin, and we’re doing the time warp again. And not in the fun Rocky Horror way. These domains don’t sound like they take long, but time adds up fast. Genshin also offers daily tasks which don’t take that long, but they’re daily tasks and they can last up to five minutes. It’s a lot of busy work with not enough pay off.

And it goes even further with minor time wasting inconveniences. Items burst out of things. I don’t know how many times I’m on a mountain face, open a chest, and the treasure spills down the mountain. Really? Auto-collect the treasure. And I can’t interact with things like a waypoint for the first time if an enemy spots me. I don’t have to see the enemy. Half the time I’m scratching my head wondering where the enemy is. Genshin invents new ways to waste time. But it’s super easy to finish the battle pass. That’s a huge plus.

Battle Pass: 4/10

Genshin doesn’t really require a player to purchase its battle pass. I advise purchasing the battle pass once annually because some extra goodies can go a long way, but one can get by without it. And if that was all that mattered, I would’ve given Genshin top marks.

Unfortunately, Genshin has seen few upgrades to its battle pass in four years. There has been one major inclusion: artifact experience items. Genshin Impact is playing with a player’s ability to build their own artifacts with these experience items and that could ease the pain of farming artifacts. I didn’t mention this in the Respecting Time segment, but Genshin’s artifacts are the most time consuming of all items one must farm.

That said, I still can’t give Genshin high marks in Battle Pass because the BP weapons are okay at best, and the ability for players to build their own artifacts is getting tested in this patch. We don’t know if Genshin intends to keep this function, even though it’s been in Honkai: Star Rail from the beginning. Fingers crossed that it stays.

True Cost: 3/10

Genshin is below average in terms of True Cost, but I struggled with how far down it should fall. It originally received an average score years ago, but I have more context with which to stratify Genshin Impact. The release of Wuthering Waves (WuWa) and how much Kuro Games gifts their players with free five-stars and upgrades and convenes (those are WuWa’s version of a gacha turn) leaves Genshin in the dust.

Even so, I can’t crater this score. One doesn’t need that much in terms of primogems (the in-game currency players can buy with real-world money) and only a few characters are needed, specifically anyone who can facilitate hyper bloom. But it’s fun to get new characters and Hoyoverse’s other game Honkai: Star Rail (HSR) is far more generous. Both HSR and WuWa provide more in-game currency for exploration and completing events.

Sure, Genshin has given their playerbase more primogems and free gacha turns in this patch (5.0) than most other patches, but someone smarter (and more dedicated toward number crunching) than me kept track of how many gacha turns a person can make with freemogems and gifts in Genshin versus HSR. Over the years, Genshin has given players 80 turns per patch. To date, HSR gives players at least 100 turns per patch with just finishing in-game content. That means that HSR players are guaranteed a five-star character each patch, while Genshin players must pay for 20 turns of the gacha crank or not get a five-star. Or they need to get lucky. Just be lucky. Simple.

And it doesn’t stop there. Genshin Impact changes for the worse with its weapon banner. You must lose the 33% chance twice before getting a guaranteed weapon. If you miss both times and go to hard pity every time, you could spend hundreds of real-world dollars. Yikes! Genshin’s weapon banner is abysmal. What’s worse is that the current banner is an improvement. I saw a video years ago of someone spending thousands of dollars and never getting the banner weapon.

Narrative: 7/10

I gave Genshin an 8/10 for this category years ago. I would’ve given it 9/10 if I only gauged its story and not the storytelling. Genshin Impact has an engaging story; Hoyoverse stinks at telling stories.

This will be a problem with most gacha games. Gachas tend to dice up a story, toss the segments into the air, and let them fall wherever they will. As a result, I can seldom follow what’s going on in Genshin’s story. I need YouTube creators like Ashikai to compile Genshin’s story from various mediums, to include mangas, short animations, one shots, forums, and even some events that I may have missed because I was AFK. Quick plug, you should check out Ashikai’s YouTube channel; they do amazing work.

Once you know the plot points, Genshin Impact has a great story. The idea that this could be a post-apocalyptic world, and the sky is fake fascinates me. I won’t spoil the whole thing here. You should check out Ashikai’s playlist on World Structure Theory. Great stuff. The narrative itself rocks. I just wish Hoyoverse would elevate their storytelling.

Storytelling: 2/10

Ugh! Genshin hardly makes sense half the time and the times when it does make sense, Paimon repeats what a character just said.

Random NPC: I think the wolf headed east.

Paimon: It sounds like (random NPC) thinks the wolf headed east.

Skip. Skip! Skip!!! I already know that. Why don’t you give me a skip function? Why does Paimon repeat everything? Why doesn’t Paimon recap the parts of the story that I could’ve missed in timed events or the manga or some other media I haven’t seen? Hoyoverse’s team must’ve heard that no one can follow their plot, but they didn’t get the memo that their tossed salad method of storytelling could be the issue. It must be that the player wasn’t paying attention. Let’s repeat the same dialogue five times because the following happens way too often:

Random NPC: That’s right, Paimon! I believe the wolf headed east.

Paimon: Oh! (Random NPC) believes the wolf headed east.

Random NPC: That’s right, Paimon. You should head east in order to find the wolf. Paimon: Paimon thinks that Paimon and the traveler should head east in order to… Stop! Skip! Why?

 

User Interface: 7/10

Genshin Impact streamlined a lot. So many gachas have cluttered interfaces. Tower of Fantasy (ToF), which was released after Genshin, is a good example of a cluttered interface. I can’t follow half of what ToF is trying to show me. It has too many sub-sub-sub-sub categories. Send a search party.

Genshin does a good job of showing the most pertinent information. But it can be better. I can do with even fewer sub, subcategories. Even so, Genshin has done such a good job at minimizing clutter that Wuthering Waves copied Genshin Impact’s interface as much as Genshin Impact copied Breath of the Wild. That tends to happen when a game does something right. If something works, copy the homework.

Presentation: 9/10

Like I said, the graphics look good but they’re dated, and I could do without Genshin’s oversaturated color palette. But the music catapults this score. Hoyoverse sunk a ton of money into making each region and even specific locations within a region unique. It says something when you can close your eyes, listen to a track, and know exactly where the piece plays.

A high music score will be a common trend for Hoyoverse games. Hoyoverse knows the value of good music. They honed their skills in Honkai Impact 3rd. “Nightglow,” anyone?

Aggregated Score: 5.22

These new scoring metrics lowered Genshin Impact’s overall score. I still have a little hope that Hoyoverse will improve Genshin Impact, but several of the game’s improvements were first tested in Honkai: Star Rail, and it took over a year for those improvements to make their way from HSR to Genshin Impact. It’s the same company.

Hoyoverse has shifted assets and focus to HSR, Honkai Impact 3rd: Part 2, and Zenless Zone Zero. As I said in my review years ago, Hoyoverse may cut their losses and not give Genshin Impact the overhaul it needs. They don’t improve their profit margins if they upgrade the current Genshin Impact. It’s only a matter of time until Hoyoverse releases Genshin Impact 2nd: Give Us More Money. That’s all I have for now. Let me know your thoughts on Genshin Impact. And wherever you are, I hope you’re having a great day.